Below are some questions that we set but have not used. We have not prepared marking schemes so answers will not be marked but happy to help with any issues.
A healthy 32 year old primigravida attends the antenatal clinic at 24 weeks gestation. (a) She wishes to have an elective caesarean section because she is concerned about the risks associated with planned vaginal birth. How would you counsel her? [12 marks]. (b) She decides to have planned vaginal birth but is unsure about giving birth at home, in a midwifery-led unit or in a consultant-led unit. How would you counsel her? [8 marks]
A 32 year old woman has been referred for pre-conception counseling. She has a history of rheumatic heart disease with a prosthetic mitral valve requiring anti-coagulation. (a) Discuss your assessment of this woman [10 marks]. (b) How would you counsel her given that her cardiac disease has been optimally managed? [10 marks]
A healthy 32 year old woman attends the assessment unit at 30 weeks gestation because of progressive abdominal pain. (a) Discuss your clinical assessment [6 marks]. (b) She is found to have severe polyhydramnios. Discuss your subsequent antenatal management [10 marks]. She presents in spontaneous labour at 35 weeks gestation with a cephalic presentation. Discuss the modifications that you will make to her intra-partum care [4 marks]
A healthy 77 year old woman has been referred to the gynaelogy clinic because of a progressive sensation of a lump in her vagina. Discuss your clinical assessment [12 marks]. She is found to have a uterine prolapse. Discuss her management options [8 marks].
A general practitioner seeks your advice about a 32 year old woman who has attended for routine cervical smear. The woman wishes to know the role of HPV testing. (a) Discuss the value of HPV testing to the cervical screening program [10 marks]. (b) The smear is reported as showing mild dyskaryosis and is positive for high risk HPV. Discuss the subsequent management [10 marks].
Home birth
Posted by Nana B.
A healthy 32 year old primigravida attends the antenatal clinic at 24 weeks gestation. (a) She wishes to have an elective caesarean section because she is concerned about the risks associated with planned vaginal birth. How would you counsel her? [12 marks]. (b) She decides to have planned vaginal birth but is unsure about giving birth at home, in a midwifery-led unit or in a consultant-led unit. How would you counsel her? [8 marks]
Ans
A.I will counsel her with a midwife ensuring uninterrupted privacy. I will enquire about her specific concerns, and offer specific evidence based advise. If she is concerned about pain, I will discuss the options of pain relief in labour including entonox, paracetamol, codeine phosphate, opioids eg pethidine, a combination of these and epidural analgesia. I will assure her that every effort will be made to ensure she has adequate pain control in labour.
If she is concerned about perineal trauma , I will offer her advise on perineal massage, which is associated with a reduced risk. I will explain that perineal tears are common the majority are minor (first and second degree ) which may require suturing and heal well, and additional problems are uncommon. I will explain that more complicated tears eg anal sphincter tears only occur in 1% of patients, and are usually easily identified by careful assessment, and with repair by trained obstetricians, over 80% of patients have no long term sequelae.
Regarding fetal concerns, I will explain that following any specific abnormal fetal finding in the course of her pregnancy, or following maternal complications, detailed advise will be offered , including specific advise on mode of delivery.
I will explain that in a normally grown baby following an uncomplicated pregnancy, most babies tolerate labour well with no problems, and that monitoring in labour will usually identify signs that raise fetal concerns for appropriate obstetric review, investigation and or intervention.
I will explain that babies delivered by caesarean section have a slightly higher rate of respiratory morbidity than those delivered vaginally.
I will explain that caesarean section is usually safe in the majority of cases, but that it is a major operation associated with anaesthetic risks including postdural puncture headache, failed regional anaesthesia, general anaesthesia and mendelson’s syndrome. I will explain the surgical
Risks including fetal injury, maternal bowel, bladder and ureteric injury, haemorrhage, wound infection and sepsis. I will also explain the associated increased future risk of placenta praevia and accreta, and it’s associated morbidity and mortality.
I will explain that return to normal function is quicker following an uncomplicated vaginal delivery compared to an uncomplicated caesarean section.
b. I will explain that delivery at home has the advantage of a familiar environment, hence less anxiety, reduces childcare and pet-care difficulties, less need for analgesia, patient can be more mobile, there is one-to-one midwifery care, less medicalization and interventions in labour, and a higher successful vaginal birth rate with less complications, compared to birth in an obstetric unit.
The disadvantage is that there are no facilities to offer regional analgesia, continuous electronic fetal monitoring advanced resuscitation and emergency surgical intervention promptly, if required. Delay in transferring a patient or neonate to hospital in an emergency may lead to severe morbidity or mortality, although this is uncommon.
A midwifery led unit has the advantage of offering facilities for electronic fetal monitoring, better facilities for neonatal resuscitation, proximity to or onsite to obstetric and neonatal facilities, thereby minimising delay in initiating advanced resuscitation or obstetric intervention of neonates or mothers respectively. Midwife led units tend to have less obstetric intervention, and higher successful vaginal births than obstetric units.
Obstetric units have a lower successful spontaneous vaginal delivery rate, higher medicalization and intervention rate, higher complication of labour and delivery rate and lower rate of one-to-one midwifery care. However they also provide ready access to obstetriciand and neonatal specialists continuous electronic fetal monitoring, regional analgesia, advanced maternal and neonatal resuscitation and operative delivery.
I will advise her that if her pregnancy is devoid of complications, and she is anticipated to have a low risk birth after careful assessment by an experience midwife or obstetrician, she could arrange for an assessment for suitability for a homebirth or birth in a midwifery led unit. In the presence of complications influencing her labour, her fetus/neonate or her own health, she would be advised to deliver in an obstetric unit
HPV testing
Posted by gouthaman S.
HPV TESTING
High risk HPV causes 75% of cervical carcinoma and present in 99% of cervical cancer.Presence of high risk HPV indicates increased risk of CIN and its absence indicates virtually no risk of CIN at that time.Hence HPV testing is clinically useful in risk assessment of managing borderline,mild dyskaryosis cervical smears and for predicting treatment failure of CIN- Test of cure. Its role as primary screening tool rather than cervical cytology is under review.HPV triaging is done for mild or borderline cervical smears.If HPV negative recourse to routine call and recall system is done as per age.This reduces the number of smear follow up,reduces patient anxiety and better utilization of resources.Though triaging increases early referrals for colposcopy,this is temporary . HPV testing is highly sensitive than colposcopy and cytology. It has high negative predictive value for residual disease,the commonest cause of treatment failure.If for treated cases of CIN after cytology and Test of cure with HPV smear after 6 months is normal,borderline,mild with negative HPV she is sent for routine recall. This reduces the number of annual smears.HPV testing is feasible,acceptable.Kits are also available.ARTISTIC trial has shown that HPV testing provides same protection for 2 screening rounds as cervical cytology for 1 screening round.This suggests that screening rounds can be increased and its role as primary screening is under review.
b)Presence of high risk DNA helps in early recognisation of CIN 2 or more.Early detection and treatement protects against progression to CIN 3 and invasive cancer. She is referred for colposcopy .Further management depends on whether CIN1,CIN2,CIN3 detected.If CIN 1 she is followed up with cervical smear at 12 months with colposcopy as local preference.If that smear shows borderline repeat HPV testing is done.Other option is she is treated with LLETZ .Presence of CIN 2 ,CIN 3 warrants treatement with excision.LLETZ is the commonest procedure done.It is done as outpatient, under local anesthesia and tissue is available for pathology.After treatement of CIN she is followed with cervical smear and HPV test of cure after 6 months.If smear normal,borderline,mild with HPV negative she is sent for routine racall system with 3 yrly interval.If HPV positive she is referred for further colposcopic assessment.If colposcopy is normal she can again be sent for routine recall system.If moderate or severe dyskaryosis on smear further colposcopic assessment is required and treated appropriately.If required Multidisciplinary team review with oncologist,colposcopist,cytologist is arranged for planning treatement.Information leaflets are provided.
Posted by gouthaman S.
SIr
Kindly give your suggestions please
Gouthaman.,
Posted by gouthaman S.
should we consider bloodgroup for assessing prognosis in GTD since latest scoring system does not include this .Kindly clarify
S.Gouthaman
home birth, and CSMR
Posted by MONA V.
A healthy 24 year old attends the antenatal clinic at 24 weeks .
a) She wishes to have a elective cesarean section because she is concerned about the risks associated with vaginal delivery.How would you counsel her? 12
b) She decides to have planned vaginal birth but is unsure about giving birth at home ,midwifery unit or consultant led unit unit.How would you counsel her?
. First the reason for her request is explored and individual issues addressed. Ask about any fear of childbirth stemming from other ‘s stories or her own beliefs. Previous abuse or sexual trauma could lead to fear of pelvic floor damage by vaginal delivery. History of any previous psychological illness, treatment taken is elicited. Ask her about social history , drug intake , lack of partner support at home which could be the reason. She is offered promise and support in labour . Involve partner in decision making about mode of delivery. Cesarean delivery is associated with more risk of thromboembolism, longer hospital stay . Urinary incontinence rates are same after 2 years and no evidence that cesarean is protective .Anal incontinence rates are also same even though vaginal delivery causes more tears as per long term study like term breech trial. She is told that sexual function will usually not be adversely affected long term with vaginal delivery. If she is concerned about fear of pelvic organ prolapse reaasure her that it is unclear that pelvic organ damage due to vaginal delivery cause prolapse.
Cesarean delivery can adversely affect future reproductive outcome increase risk of abnormal placentation. Tell her about no proven fetal risks attributed to vaginal delivery. cerebral palsy rates not decreased even with increase in cesarean rates. The mode of delivery is influenced by maternal fetal factors at term like any obstetric indications , malpresentations and should attend antenatal appointments as per schedule . she can be offered support of perinatal mental health services for counseling. If inspite of conselling her fear and anxiety can cause more trauma her feelings anre respected and final decision is consultant based .
Once she opts for planned vaginal delivery place of birth is decided depending upon risk factors for mother and baby. She is told about advantage of home birth like familiar surrounding , more in control, less need for pain relief . She is told that home birth can be allowed only if she is low risk , no medical complications .There should be no fetal indications like growth restriction which need continous fetal heart monitoring and immediate neonatal facilities . There should be good support at home ,local transport facility, good communication with referral centre in need of emergency transfer. Perinatal outome for nulliparous women in place of birth study show significant adverse outcome in home birth setting . Labour can be unpredictable and any complication can have adverse outcome . She is given option of midwifery units alongside and free standing where more chances of successful vaginal delivery with less interventions. Fetal monitoring can be done and urgent transfer if needed is faster . Alongside midwifery units can be a good option as consultant obstetrician and neonatologist , anaesthetists can be approached easily . Consultant led unit would be ideal but increase in interventions like cesarean section operative delivery.
Posted by Christa R.
Dear Paul,
I was wondering whether there is any chance that you might be able to provide feedback/guidance of this essay question. I am not too sure I am completely on the right track and given the importance of this "topic of interest" I would be hugely grateful for any feedback if at all possible.
Many thanks
A general practitioner seeks your advice about a 32 year old woman who has attended for routine cervical smear. The woman wishes to know the role of HPV testing. (a) Discuss the value of HPV testing to the cervical screening program [10 marks]. (b) The smear is reported as showing mild dyskaryosis and is positive for high risk HPV. Discuss the subsequent management [10 marks].
a)
The aetiological relationship between the high risk oncotypes of HPV and cervical smears means that the presence of high risk HPV in the cervical smear increases the risk of CIN, whilst its absence implies virtually no risk at that time.HPV testing can therefore be clinically useful for risk assessment (HPV triage) and in managing borderline or low grade abnormalities and predicting the risk of treatment failure.(HPV test of cure).
The aim of triage is to identify those that are at high riski.e. HPV +ve and refer onwards to colposcopy, but also to identify those that are –ve and therefore at virtually no risk at that time, allowing return to normal recall (3yrs if < 50yrs or 5yrs if >50yrs). The aim is also to curtail the extensive follow up for women after treatment for CIN.If following treatment they are HPV –ve and have normal smears at 6/12, 1yr and 18/12 then they no longer require prolonged surveillance (for 5yrs).If HPV and cytology –ve, the risk of at least CIN II is <0.5%. By returning these women to routine recall earlier, it may decrease anxiety for the women involved and save cytological resources.It may be however that there initially may be an increase in “high risk” cases picked up and referred onwards to colposcopy, however it shouldultimately have a positive effect in reducing cytological surveillance in women with low grade smears (who are HPV –ve) and for those who require post treatment f/up, thereby saving considerable resources in the long run.
b)
A smear which shows mild dyskaryosis and is HPV +ve is at risk of CIN and progression (>50% risk of CIN II-III) Therefore, this lady should be referred to colposcopy for further assessment of her cervix.If at colposcopy there is confirmed CIN then it should be treated.Treatment may either be via local excision or destructive techniques.Excision has the benefit of making tissue available for histology to confirm the diagnosis and adequacy of treatment.Destructive techniques rely heavily on exclusion of invasive disease at colposcopy and bx.The most widely used technique to treat CIN in the UK is diathermy loop excision (LLETZ).
Following treatment (i.e. LLETZ) I would inform the lady that she may have some browny, bloodstained discharge for a couple of weeks.I would also advise on precautions to minimise infection, including avoidance of tampons for 4/52, avoidance of SI for 4/52 and avoidance of swimming for 2/52.I would also inform of a possible temporary change in her menstrual pattern, which may be associated with increased bleeding and pain.I would also discuss the small increased risk of PTL in pregnancy, but without any increase in perinatal mortality.
If colposcopy is –ve for CIN, I would repeat a smear in 6/12.If dyskariosis and HPV status persists I would discuss treatment at that stage (i.e. LLETZ).
model answers for additional essay questions
Posted by SHABANA A.
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shabana
Home birth -Thanks for the Direction Paul!
Posted by Nana B.
A healthy 32 year old primigravida attends the antenatal clinic at 24 weeks gestation. (a) She wishes to have an elective caesarean section because she is concerned about the risks associated with planned vaginal birth. How would you counsel her? [12 marks]. (b) She decides to have planned vaginal birth but is unsure about giving birth at home, in a midwifery-led unit or in a consultant-led unit. How would you counsel her? [8 marks]
a.I will enquire from her what her reasons for caesarean section are. I will advise according to her reasons. For instance if she indicates anxiety, I will offer her a referral to a perinatal mental health specialist. If following this specialist assessment and intervention she still wants a caesarean, I will discuss the benefits and risks of caesarean section, and those of vaginal delivery. If she makes an informed decision for planned caesarean delivery I will offer her caesarean section.
If she decides to pursue vaginal delivery I will ensure she has all the necessary ongoing support.
An obstetrician may refuse to book her for a caesarean, but they should facilitate review by a colleague willing to offer a caesarean.
All counseling, referrals and relevant discussions should be clearly documented.
In an uncomplicated pregnancy the planned caesarean should be booked for 39 wks. or more risks of prematurity, preferably before 40 weeks, to reduce the risk of labour, emergency delivery or adverse perinatal outcome. A plan for labour occurring before the booked date will also be agreed and documented.
I will provide written information with the counseling and for people who have additional needs, eg have a language barrier or cannot read, an appropriate formatted information pack.
b.I will explain that if her pregnancy remains uncomplicated with no anticipated complications for labour she may consider all options for birthplace.
I will explain that for low risk women having a baby the risk of adverse outcome to their baby eg birth injuries, intrapartum stillbirth, early neonatal death, neonatal encephalopathy was low at about 4.3/1000 overall. I will add that for nulliparous women the risk is increased to 5.3/1000 if they deliver in obstetric units, and 9.3/1000 if they have a homebirth.
I will explain that there may be little difference in adverse perinatal outcome between giving birth in an obstetric unit and giving birth in any Midwife led unit.
I will explain that homebirths are associated with higher rates of successful vaginal births overall, but for nulliparous women about 45% of them end up being transferred to obstetric units for reasons related to the mother, the baby or poor progress of labour.
I will offer her written information, and a follow up appointment to discuss her decision.
Home birth and CSMR
Posted by MONA V.
Dear Paul ,
I have posted answer on home birth question on 22 aug . Please give your valuable suggestions .
Posted by gouthaman S.
Thanks for the suggestions . For HPV essay regarding the second part kindly give your suggetions please.
S.Gouthaman
NICE CS 2011 gudeline Query
Posted by shraddha G.
indication of CS in HIV
i) with HAART more than 400 copies /ml (NICE 2011 guideline on CS)
ii) wit HAART/ART more than 50 copies/ml (HIV in pregnancy GTG guideline)
Consider either vaginal birth or CS for women on ART with viral loads between 50-400 copies/ml (NICE 2011 CS)
What levels we have to quote in exam as there are discrepancies in 2 guideline.
2) there is no difference in following for VB/CS:(NICE 2011 CS)
i) uterine rupture
ii) neonatal repiratory morbidity
iii) HIE
iv) injury to bladder/ureter
when such diff are given in thte old guideline, and i could not get why there are no differences.
Please make it clear
HPV testing
Posted by gouthaman S.
Sir thanks for the suggestions. I have rewritten the first part .Kindly give your suggestions
High risk HPV is associated with 95% of cervical cancers.Presence of HPV increases the risk of CIN and its absence indicates virtually no risk of CIN at that time.In the cervical screening programme HPV testing is used for triaging mild ,borderline smears.It is also used as test of cure after treatement of CIN 1,2,3. IN HPV triaging of mild ,borderline smears if HPV is negative routine recall once in 3years or 5 years as per age is suggested. This reduces the number of recalls as in routine screening programme 3 negative smears at 6 months interval is needed for mild, borderline smears before retuning to routine recall.One more advantage of triaging is it helps in reducing the default rate.If HPV positive colposcopic referral is indicated. Though it increases referral to colposcopy,it allows for earlier detection of high grade CIN and treatement.This reduces the progression to invasive lesions .It is costeffective .In test of cure after treatment of CIN lesions cytology and HPV testing is done.If normal,mild,borderline smear and HPV negative recall is done at 3 years only.Absence of HPV indicates cure because of its high negative predictive value.This again reduces the number of recalls and costeffective. If HPV positive it indicates absence of cure and requires further colposcopic assessment.
cs on maternal request
Posted by shraddha G.
a. Explore the specific reason of maternal request of caesarean section. Counsel her sensitively and inform her about the benefit of planned vaginal birth and risks associated with caesarean section. Good communication between woman and health professional should be there, enabling her to make an informed decision. Provide evidence based information leaflets tailored to the needs of woman. Explain her that if there is no absolute indication for CS then planned vaginal birth is most suitable for her. If she is concerned about pain during vaginal birth, inform her about availability of epidural analgesia in labour.
Elective CS increases the maternal and neonatal morbidity. Chances of postpartum veno-thromboembolism are significantly higher with CS as compared to vaginal birth. Transient tachypnea of newborn and respiratory complications are more in babies born by CS. Admission in NICU is more in these groups of babies. Post operative respiratory discomfort is more in mother due to pain in wound of caesarean scar. Convalescence is delayed and return to normal routine activities takes time with caesarean section as compared to vaginal birth. There is requirement of blood transfusion with caesarean section,and readmission to hospital,often.Furthermore there are always risk of surgery, such as damage to bowel,ureter and bladder and risks of anaesthesia with caesarean section, which are not so with planned vaginal birth. Discuss implication of CS on future pregnancies that risk of repeat caesarean section in future pregnancies is very common and risk of uterine scar rupture is there with VBAC. There are chances of placenta previa,accreta in future pregnancies with previous caesarean section.Furthermore experience of normal labour prepares the newborn for forthcoming life. If she has anxiety about vaginal childbirth refer her for counselling from a health professional with expertise in perinatal mental health support with access to planned place of birth.
b. Counsel her so that she is able to make an informed decision. For healthy uncomplicated pregnancy, homebirth can be opted, but this is usually associated with inadvertent complications like neonatal compromise,PPH. Sufficient transit time is required to transfer her to maternity unit, if such complication arises during labour. Although with home birth chances of vaginal delivery increases. For such females delivery in midwifery unit is most suitable. The delivery takes place under supervision of specialist midwife. Channels are always open for any suggestion from consultant obstetrician. In case of any inadvertent complication like PPH, fetal distress, umbilical cord prolapse, there is a provision to transfer her to consultant- led unit. Availability of electronic fetal monitoring is there, so any fetal distress would be diagnosed at earliest and necessary intervention could be taken.
Furthermore, delivery in consultant led unit for uncomplicated primigravida is not required, as it unnecessarily increases the burden over unit.
Provide information leaflet to her and contact of support groups.
Posted by shraddha G.
Dr.Paul
Please give your valuable suggestion for this answer.
Home birth
Posted by Nana B.
A healthy 32 year old primigravida attends the antenatal clinic at 24 weeks gestation. (a) She wishes to have an elective caesarean section because she is concerned about the risks associated with planned vaginal birth. How would you counsel her? [12 marks]. (b) She decides to have planned vaginal birth but is unsure about giving birth at home, in a midwifery-led unit or in a consultant-led unit. How would you counsel her? [8 marks]
I will enquire from her what her what her reasons for caesarean section are. I will advise according to her reasons. If she has no reason, I will discuss the overall risks and benefits of C/S compared to vaginal birth. I will explain that planned caesarean section carries a small risk of surgical complications including injury to abdominal organs, wound infections, and anaesthetic complications, and generally take longer to recover from, than vaginal birth. I will explain that serious complications eg bowel are uncommon, but require additional repair surgery and can lead to longer recovery, and rarely can be life-threatening. I will explain that after an uncomplicated caesarean section future vaginal birth remains an option if the pregnancy is uncomplicated, but this carries an associated small increased risk of scar dehiscence or uterine rupture(about 1:200), which can lead to serious maternal morbidity, and perinatal morbidity or mortality.
I will explain that following a caesarean section there is an increased risk of placenta praevia and accreta in a future pregnancy, which increases further with increasing number of caesarean sections. Hence I will advise her to consider her future fertility intentions as part of her planning for caesarean section.
I will explain that vaginal delivery carries a small risk of serious perineal injuries eg anal sphincter injuries, pain in labour, interventions such as FBS and operative vaginal delivery, risks ofintrapartum fetal distress and intrapartum caesarean section of about 1 in 5 to 1in 4. I will explain that there is a small but increased risk of major haemorrhage compared with planned caesarean for uncomplicated pregnancies. I will add that babies delivered by vaginal delivery have a slightly reduced risk of requiring admission to neonatal intensive care, and mothers return to normal activities quicker following an uncomplicated vaginal birth, compared to an uncomplicated caesarean delivery.
I will encourage her to speak to other members of the team, eg midwifes and obstetric anaethetists. If following careful consideration she decides to have a caesarean I will offer it.
If she indicates anxiety about vaginal birth, I will offer her a referral to a perinatal mental health specialist. If following this specialist assessment and intervention she still wants a caesarean, I will discuss the benefits and risks of caesarean section, and those of vaginal delivery, and offer her choice.
An obstetrician may refuse to book her for a caesarean, but they should facilitate review by a colleague willing to offer a caesarean.
All counseling, referrals and relevant discussions should be clearly documented.
In an uncomplicated pregnancy the planned caesarean should be booked for 39 wks. or more risks of prematurity, preferably before 40 weeks, to reduce the risk of labour, emergency delivery or adverse perinatal outcome. A plan for labour occurring before the booked date will also be agreed and documented.
I will provide written information with the counseling and for people who have additional needs, eg have a language barrier or cannot read, an appropriate formatted information pack.
a.I will explain that if her pregnancy remains uncomplicated with no anticipated complications for labour she may consider all options for birthplace.
I will explain that planned homebirth reduces C/S, but birth in a midwife led unit does not.
I will explain that for low risk women having a baby the risk of adverse outcome to their baby eg birth injuries, intrapartum stillbirth, early neonatal death, neonatal encephalopathy was low at about 4.3/1000 overall. I will add that for nulliparous women the risk is increased to 5.3/1000 if they deliver in obstetric units, and 9.3/1000 if they have a homebirth.
I will explain that there may be little difference in adverse perinatal outcome between giving birth in an obstetric unit and giving birth in any Midwife led unit.
I will explain that although homebirths are associated with higher rates of successful vaginal births overall, for nulliparous women about 45% of them end up being transferred to obstetric units for reasons related to the mother, the baby or poor progress of labour.
I will offer her written information, and a follow up appointment to discuss her decision.
I will explain that in the event of serious complications related to fetal compromise or maternal compromise, there is a small risk of adverse outcome due to delay in achieving specialist obstetric and/or neonatal input, and that accessibility of the nearest obstetric unit to the chosen place of birth may be important.
Posted by Nana B.
Hi Paul . Would you kindly give us a sketch on how to approach this question ie maternal request counselling, as it seems to be a probable.